Madtom ID

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IsaacsFishingCorner
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Madtom ID

Just wanted to get some help on this identification, I caught these little guys at Yellowood State Forest in Indiana. I'm thinking they might be Tadpole Madtoms, but I'm going to be honest I'm having some trouble being very sure. The "Fishes of Indiana" book indicates that there should be Freckled, Brindled, Tadpole and Mountain Madtoms, as well as Stonecats in this area. Is there a chance any of you could help me idenitfy them?

Thanks!

Pinefish123
Yellow bullhead?

My guess is maybe juvenile yellow bullhead.  Its got a fairly separate adipose fin and white chin barbels.

IsaacsFishingCorner
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That's too bad, I was hoping

That's too bad, I was hoping to add a new lifer to my list. Thanks

zippyFX
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The tail on the bottom one

The tail on the bottom one does not look like yellow bullhead but it could be a freckled madom. From the pciture I can not see freckles due to the resolution..... I am leaning this way  based on the looks of the anal, caudaul and adipose fin.

 

 

 

Dr Flathead
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I think the first fish looks

I think the first fish looks like a stonecat.  The tail is square.  Not sure about the second fish.  My gut tells me its just a juvenile bullhead but I really dont know much about the freckled madtoms and their variations.

zippyFX
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Could be a stonecat but I

Could be a stonecat but I would explect it more long and slender.

IsaacsFishingCorner
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Thanks for the input on this,

Thanks for the input on this, I wish I had brought my better camera with me on this trip. I really hadn't considered bullhead before this