<p>For the past year I've been trying to cross off a few redhorse species in the area. After MANY trips to various spots I've only caught one golden redhorse...and I had to really work for that one fish. I cannot find any bait or presentation that will get a nibble with any consistancy. The one golden came on a redworm but I've watched dozens of fish pass right over redworms, crawlers, salmon eggs, crawdad meat, and corn. I've also drifted flies by a hoard of fish holding in a deep pool....no takers other than the occasional sunfish or smallie. </p>
<p>I've been sight fishing fishing small rivers and creeks using 5X fluouro and tiny hooks. I've read everything I can find on sucker fishing and I've yet to find a golden bullet. I'm about at the end of my rope...any suggestions on something else to try?</p>
1/2 crawler on a #6 hook presented in a hole or current seam. Tighten line, watch tip, wait.
Eli
Crawler chunks or Redworms (I prefer redworms) work far better than any other bait, everywhere I've fished for suckers (MN, WI, and CO). Small hooks help a lot (I like size 8 most the time).
Sight fishing can be great, or it can work against you (if you are targetting the wrong individuals). Watch the fish, do you see them eating? Watch the gills and mouth and watch for them physically distubing the sand/gravel. On rocks sometimes they really go to town trying to get under it to the tasty goodies. If they are mostly just sitting there, they aren't eating. Try another time, another spot, deeper, shallower, faster or slower current. Ultimately every water body is a little different.
From everything you've said in your post I feel like time/place is the most likely error. Keep everything else simple right now. I've had days on my local river where the summer fishing for Shortheads was best in the early AM and later PM, Silvers often more active after dark. You get the idea.
As an additional question, do you know what the most common suckers in the streams you are fishing? That might provide some insight
Hi chemicalpotential, thanks for posting this question - it brings up a lot of interesting points about sucker fishing in general.
From your bio, it says you are from Tennessee. Not having much knowledge of fishing that area, I looked at the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency Guide To Tennessee Fish . I'm sure you have seen it, but it was a very well-done resource and I'd encourage others here to check it out. However, it is seriously lacking in the redhorse information! Too bad. You would need to look at sampling data to determine which species live where.
If you haven't already, check out the Redhose Species Pages at roughfish.com/redhorses.
For us that fish in the Midwest, we have lots of rivers with high populations of various redhorse. Some generalizations can be made about location and patterns -
I hope some of this might help you. if you are seeing redhorse in any kinds of numbers they will most likely be catchable, maybe by trying different times of the day.
Message me. I'm not the expert some are on here, but I can get with you sometime and show you some stuff. I'm literally just across the state line from you.
Let there be fire!
Thanks to everyone for the tips. I have seen fish doing various things...I try to pitch baits toward actively feeding fish. They're ususally slowly working upstream nosing through the rocks and I can see them picking someting up from time to time. I think most of the fish I'm seeing are black or golden redhorse, but I will on occasion see a red-tailed species in the mix. Might be a river redhorse? I have a small sample size but those seem to spook more easily. I've also read that we also have silvers in this area as well. I have yet to try fishing near dawn or dusk, usually been mid morning or early evening.
The biggest reason I've been sight fishing is to keep my baits away from sunfish and packs of minnows. Maybe fishing at night would slow them down.